[NewPilot]

People like you make me sick. Pompus arrogant know it all a**hole. Who are you to tell any one not to take a flying job. Throwing out your 2 cents while flying and doing what you love to do. Go jet pilots are definately not to blame for the low wages in regional airlines. I dont see you giving up your seat for your fellow pilot bro. In the future, keep your ill advice to yourself. To all others, if you get a chance to fly for go jet, I say take it

I'm thinking that these people that are saying bad things about GoJet have personality differences with the people they have to work for/with. Maybe that's why they had a bad experience. I see that in the Army all the time but we still have to work together-teamwork. I will look for a company that has these qualities when it comes time for me to choose an airlines to apply. Not a company with people always trying to backstab each other.
Question for everyone.........If GoJet wasn't such a good airlines, why are they still in business????
How long does it take with GoJet to upgrade to the left seat?
Thank you.

[TWINSTAR]

What makes most people mad about GoJet is that the pilots that went there have a superbad case of sjs and where willing to step on others to get there. Those pilots thought that they were priveledged and didn't need to follow the normal steps to get where they want to be. Sure we all want a quick upgrade time and would like to get on with a major. But there are some things we just shouldn't do. From what I understand about GoJet:

1-Started by the CEO of TranStates to bypass dealing with the pilots demands (unionized).
2-Offered current TSA pilots a chance to start at this new airline (GoJet) and promised a quick upgrade.

So if you were one of those that left TSA and went to GoJet, you are a scab. If you are just starting out and want to get on with GoJet now, PASS. You can find a better place, anywhere you look.

Bottom line is that when I see GoJet pilots in the terminal they take their badges off to not be recognized. They also won't look me in the eye because they have probably been given the finger by too many other crews.

Yeah I'm sure that some do go on to bigger and better, but that is the exception.

[jetrjdriver]

What makes most people mad about GoJet is that the pilots that went there have a superbad case of sjs and where willing to step on others to get there. Those pilots thought that they were priveledged and didn't need to follow the normal steps to get where they want to be. Sure we all want a quick upgrade time and would like to get on with a major. But there are some things we just shouldn't do. From what I understand about GoJet:

1-Started by the CEO of TranStates to bypass dealing with the pilots demands (unionized).
2-Offered current TSA pilots a chance to start at this new airline (GoJet) and promised a quick upgrade.

So if you were one of those that left TSA and went to GoJet, you are a scab. If you are just starting out and want to get on with GoJet now, PASS. You can find a better place, anywhere you look.

Bottom line is that when I see GoJet pilots in the terminal they take their badges off to not be recognized. They also won't look me in the eye because they have probably been given the finger by too many other crews.

Yeah I'm sure that some do go on to bigger and better, but that is the exception.

First things first. One should not reply to a post until they have a through understanding of the topic being discussed, not just rumors that have been spread by dis-gruntaled pilots.

1- Look up the definition of a scab.

2- Visit the "Official" investigation of this case with the National Mediation Board via this link:
http://www.nmb.gov/r...2006/33n009.pdf

3- Read the report. Understand that Business IS Business and airlines do not care about employee's!!! The sooner you learn this the better.

4- Understand that this is a completely separate airline from Transstates. And that this senario is no different than US Airways Holdings, or etc. owning PSA and Piedmont. Two completely separate airlines. And I can think of many more airline holdings senarios.

5- Transstates had the oportunity to take the flying before GoJet was created but was under scope clause with American. And was also offered the oportunity to take senority at GoJet. Transstates/ALPA kicked back the T/A wanting a better deal. TSA/alpa should have filed for a single pilot group rep. but did not. That is TSA's fault, not GoJet.

6- Regional Airline industry has ALWAYS been a stepping stone for the major airlines or we all would not be putting up with all of the bad wages, work rules, schedules etc.

7- The thing that is going on with the Gojet debacal right now is that it is the latest thing to wine about. Five or six years ago it was Freedom Air, Then it was Skywest flying CRJ-700's for CRJ-200 rates. And lets not forget Ol' Transstates Airlines that fly the same routes that American Eagle should be flying... no one is harping on that right now.

8- If you are at a regional airline and you think ALPA is going to save your company and help you over dealing with the best interest of the majors.... Please wake up!

9- Understand that the overall problem that is going on in the regionals AND the majors is just pure supply and demand. There will never be a solution to the problems we face until you can find a way to tell that 300-500 pilot that just graduated, that he should not go fly for Mesa, Transstates or GOJET. BECAUSE YOU WOULD ALL HAVE DONE IT BACK THEN JUST AS THEY ARE DOING IT NOW!!!

10- And you mentioned that: "follow the normal steps to get where they want to be". Normal to you may be finding a good regional and sitting around for 4-5 years and putting up with all that is sad...but don't get mad at others if they choose a faster path to get to the majors. You can do it to!
Otherwise, find a great regional airline and retire there! Their are a few good ones left where people are doing just that. While subsequently wining about all of the other geniuses that are driving their wages down to get to a better quality of life.

Your Quote..
"Bottom line is that when I see GoJet pilots in the terminal they take their badges off to not be recognized. They also won't look me in the eye because they have probably been given the finger by too many other crews.
Yeah I'm sure that some do go on to bigger and better, but that is the exception."

I have never heard of any of GoJet pilots taking off their badges not to be recognized, that is bull. They will not look you in the eye because they most likely feel sorry for your situation. I have never been turned down for a jumpseat and have always been nice to and treated fair by other pilots. Grow up and be a professional and stop spreading rumors about stuff that you know nothing about. And I will agree to put a memo up in break room that says:

Attention all GoJet pilots, we all must quit our jobs and go find better jobs "anywhere we look" so that: TWINSTAR will have a better lifestyle at his company until he/or she gets to a major.
Yea right, your the one with all the solutions TWINSTAR, ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!!

[TWINSTAR]

True I did get most of my info from TSA guys that were obviously mad, who can blame them. I am just sick of the attitude that a lot of people have, in that they would do anything to get into an rj. You say that I would have done that, if the opportunity presented itself. Well the opportunity DID present itself, and I DID NOT take it. I agree with some of what you posted, and disagree with some. I don't necessarily agree that the regionals have 'ALWAYS' been a stepping stone (ever hear of Horizon?). In the past, yes. Today, the benefit of moving on from a quality regional to a major have been trimmed down. Why do you insist that we should get kicked in the nuts just because we don't fly a 777? "Bad work rules, wages, schedules", do you think all of those things will be magically fixed when you are hired on at your dream major? You'll need more koolaid then you are currently on, I'm afraid. When you get to the majors, is that when you will start sticking up for yourself? Is that when we will all start helping eachother? "A faster path to the majors?" Are you kidding me? You don't have to go to a bottom rung regional to get a fast upgrade. Just because you did, and it is working for you, doesn't mean that it is THE way to go. GoJet is not the problem. If it went under, it would just be replaced by gojet version 2.0. Its the pilots that want to take any shortcuts they can, even if it means screwing other pilots that are hurting us. Its just a selfish attitude. By the way, I am not knocking 300 hour pilots, we were all there at one point, and they do have skills. My ONLY point is that we are all on the same team. Maybe if we realize that, we will help this industry move forward.

[jetrjdriver]

True I did get most of my info from TSA guys that were obviously mad, who can blame them. I am just sick of the attitude that a lot of people have, in that they would do anything to get into an rj. You say that I would have done that, if the opportunity presented itself. Well the opportunity DID present itself, and I DID NOT take it. I agree with some of what you posted, and disagree with some. I don't necessarily agree that the regionals have 'ALWAYS' been a stepping stone (ever hear of Horizon?). In the past, yes. Today, the benefit of moving on from a quality regional to a major have been trimmed down. Why do you insist that we should get kicked in the nuts just because we don't fly a 777? "Bad work rules, wages, schedules", do you think all of those things will be magically fixed when you are hired on at your dream major? You'll need more koolaid then you are currently on, I'm afraid. When you get to the majors, is that when you will start sticking up for yourself? Is that when we will all start helping eachother? "A faster path to the majors?" Are you kidding me? You don't have to go to a bottom rung regional to get a fast upgrade. Just because you did, and it is working for you, doesn't mean that it is THE way to go. GoJet is not the problem. If it went under, it would just be replaced by gojet version 2.0. Its the pilots that want to take any shortcuts they can, even if it means screwing other pilots that are hurting us. Its just a selfish attitude. By the way, I am not knocking 300 hour pilots, we were all there at one point, and they do have skills. My ONLY point is that we are all on the same team. Maybe if we realize that, we will help this industry move forward.

Please read my reply in the other section of this forum.

Take care, I wish you the best of luck in this crazy industry!

Oh, yea... Im not knocking 300-500 pilots either. Just stating facts. The last five guys I flown with had around 500 hrs and they flew better than some of the 2500 hr + pilots!

[NewPilot]

If you go to BlowJet prepare for no future in 121.

ElDuderino,
Do you have FACTS to back up your statement?
What regional, other than Gojet has fast upgrades as fast as Gojet??
I WILL apply to Gojet when the time comes if it'll get me to the Majors quicker, regardless of what others think. A pilot is a pilot.

[Capt. Rex Kramer]

Wow this is a long thread that has nothing to do with the original post. So I will ask since I'm looking for information on the Go Jet interview and I haven't had any luck looking here.
WHAT IS THE INTERVIEW LIKE AT GO JET?
I have an interview coming up and I could careless about your personal opinion of Go Jets . Just the facts please.

[mshunter]

9- Understand that the overall problem that is going on in the regionals AND the majors is just pure supply and demand. There will never be a solution to the problems we face until you can find a way to tell that 300-500 pilot that just graduated, that he should not go fly for Mesa, Transstates or GOJET. BECAUSE YOU WOULD ALL HAVE DONE IT BACK THEN JUST AS THEY ARE DOING IT NOW!!!


Attention all GoJet pilots, we all must quit our jobs and go find better jobs "anywhere we look" so that: TWINSTAR will have a better lifestyle at his company until he/or she gets to a major.
Yea right, your the one with all the solutions TWINSTAR, ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!!

I happen to agree with Twinstar. And for all those before me who did go to the regionals and work for penuts, thanks for runing the Airline industry. When my mentors got into the buisness years ago, they were lucky to get the job, because most pilots were ex-military. But they didn't sell themselves short. One of them is a chief pilot for a corporate division out of VNY, and when a guy comes in and will work for next to nothing, he doesn't get the job. If there wasn't so many kids with wet certs ready to work to get on to a major, mabey the regionals would pay there guys a decent wage. When a ticket clerk makes the same money that a pilot does, there is a HUGE problem with the industry. Did the ticket clerk have to get a college education and spend years earning their certs to make it. NO. Did I, YES. So why do we make the same, if not less money? Does anyone else see a problem with this. He/She sells tickets-I FLY THE DAMN AIRPLANE!

Steeping stone or not, we are trained professionals, with many peoples lives in our hands. We should be paid accordingly. I would rather fly rubber dog $h!t around in the back of a 150, then fly for even a major airline!

[Capt. Rex Kramer]

A very interesting bit of useless information. So anyways does anybody have and relevant information about a GO Jet interview

[Capt. Rex Kramer]

Nevermind I sorted out the interview link to the left thank you very much.

FYI :
Date Interviewed: July 2008
Summary of Qualifications: Commercial
Were you offered the job? Yes
Pilot Interview Profile:
If you meet the min flight time, you should apply. Interviewed in St. Louis. Very straight forward, it's a get to know you type interview. No sim or test. GoJet has gotten many resumes because of layoffs and furloughed pilots however they expect hiring to be competitive for everyone because they need CA and FOs. They will be getting so many more airplanes they can handle so hiring will be 20 per month until next year until they meet the plans of nearly doubling their current pilot group. Good luck.